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At What Cost?

So, anything to talk about for the draft? Anything?

Well, I suppose so. Ha, ha.

Obviously the huge news was the much derided trade to get Trubisky. Before I try to get into the actual cost of that trade, and trying to resolve it against the second round moves, lets talk about a concept.

Back a few weeks ago I wrote about the Chicago quarterback dogpile. While we had a dogpile, I don’t really have a problem with the stockpiling of quarterbacks. It is obviously the most important position in the league and when things go south, so does your team (anyone really like seeing Pickles on the field?).

In LA, the Rams made a mistake and had no backup when their starter went down last year and they had to toss Goff into the fire. Against what I predicted, he flopped hard, and Wentz of all people did well. You never know. But I think it is always best to let a new college fresh qb get some reps and garbage time in before tossing him into the fray. With the current stockpile, we will have the luxury of letting Trubisky watch Glennon/Sanchez/Shaw get killed while he is learning and getting used to the speed of the NFL. The concept is pretty sound and I think it is a trend that you will see with other NFL teams.

But at what cost? According to Jason at Over the Cap, the cost was approximately $12.6mm. But, as I predicted in a text to a friend last night, Pace traded down in the second round.

Bears got:
2nd round, 45th pick
4th round, 119th pick
6th round, 197th pick
4th round, 2018

Cardinals got:
2nd round, 36th pick
7th round, 221st pick

Trubisky trade:
Bears give up:
3rd round, 67th pick
4th round, 111th pick (note, the Bears have another 4th rounder this year)
3rd round, 2018

So what does all of this number soup mean? Well, the 7th rounder is crap, and is just about as valuable as a UDFA so I will cross that off the list. The fourth rounders that the Bears gave to SF and got from Arizona basically cancel each other out. The sixth and fourth from 2018 from the Cardinals basically (to me) cancel out the third we gave up to the Niners this year. So we are out, if you believe me, one third round pick to move up one spot in the first round and get Trubisky. I suppose you could dive into the numbers and hash all of this out to the penny, but I am too lazy for that.

And this isn’t taking into account that Pace might have more deals up his sleeve.

If you add to all of this that proof is beginning to bubble up that there was indeed competition for that second pick and that Trubisky was a highly rated player for a lot of teams and the decision doesn’t seem so terrible. In fact, it should bother us none at all. We needed a qb, we got likely the best on the board and we are moving forward.

In addition, what if Glennon is decent? Well, again, with the luxury of letting Trubisky sit the bench, he is great trade bait and we could end up on the top side of the trade with the Niners if we deal him away at a later date. When you think about it, there isn’t much wrong with any of this.

Draft Open Thread

Here’s an open thread for everything draft related. The draft – easily the most over-hyped television event in all of media. I will say one thing – Pace better get this right or it will likely be his last with the Bears (or any other team for that matter).

Quarterback Dogpile

Most of the big names have been signed in free agency so we are in the NFL “doldrums” for a bit here until the draft. I thought I would take a few minutes to try to figure out just what the Bears are trying to tell us with the current dogpile we have on the team at the QB position.

Currently it is clear that Glennon will be the starter, since he has a massive guarantee for next season. Believe it or not, I am OK with this as there will be quite a few new players on offense, and if we draft a QB (more on this later) I wouldn’t want to just throw him into the fray and get killed.

Mark Sanchez was recently signed for one year. If you want to laugh, go to the Bears instagram site and check out the comments after they made the announcement. All of them (by Bear fans at least) were along the lines of “fuckfuckfuck” or “fml” or “awful!”. It is pretty hilarious. I am of the opinion that a total loser laughingstock team like the Bears should just kill their social media efforts until they are decent. Kevin White had to eventually shut off the comments on his Instagram as every time he posted, his comments filled up with “bust”, “epic bust”, “thanks for being a bust” and the like.

But I digress.

Sanchez was signed for $2mm and believe it or not I am pretty good with this deal. He may or may not make the team, and if you look around the league, that is a very good deal for a backup quarterback. Hell, McClown just signed for $6mm to play on the Jests and he is nothing more than a place filler. Would you rather have Clown at 6 or Sanchez at 2? Of course this is a dumb conversation but one that needs to be had when you are talking about a backup qb.

David Fales is a leftover from the Trestman “era” (lol) and has never really been given a chance imho. The Bears have protected him several times, promoting him to the team off of the practice squad so he doesn’t get pinched by another team, but what for? He never plays. Maybe they see something in him, but we will never know if he never hits the field.

Connor Shaw is also an unknown. After the broken leg we just don’t know where he will end up.

So we go into this year with 4 pretty craptacular QB’s in the big picture, one of whom we are overpaying by an insane amount. So what gives? What is the plan?

Well, it should be pretty clear after the draft. Of course everyone here is praying we draft a QB. I am not necessarily married to the idea that we draft the maniac Watson from Clemson with the 3 pick. In fact, I wouldn’t be adverse to seeing the Bears trade off that 3 for more picks lower down. But if they do draft Watson I would be good with it. That would basically give one of Shaw/Fales their walking papers after the Bears use them up in camp for an arm. Or maybe Sanchez will stink up the joint in camp and they will cut him.

Glennon simply can’t be the future of the team, and the Bears signed a decent deal as far as the time frame. The amount they are paying is ridiculous, as everyone will agree, but as long as there is a plan in place to bring up the QB of the future, I am more than happy to see Glennon and/or Sanchez/Fales/Shaw get killed while we are still putting our offense together. They don’t have anyone to throw the ball to anyways.

What Should the Mike Glennon Contract Tell Bear Fans?

There is much wailing and gnashing of teeth on the ‘ol interwebs about the Mike Glennon deal. I would like to take a few minutes to take a closer look at it and what the contract really says (at least what I think it is trying to say).

The reports and people shouting that OH NO THE BEARS ARE PAYING MIKE GLENNON $14.5MM PER YEAR are a bit overdone, imho. Here is why.

The contract actually reads thusly (cribbed from our friends at OTC)

Total value, $48mm, $18.5mm fully guaranteed. After year one, the Bears can cut Glennon with only $4.5mm of dead money.

This is basically a one year “prove it” deal. If Glennon does well, the Bears have a pretty good deal, with the 22nd highest paid qb in the league (as of this writing). If he sucks, he is out the door (along with Pace, Fox and all the rest, but that is a different post).

The contract is basically saying that Glennon is a placeholder. Nobody is under any illusions that Glennon is taking the Bears to great places. He will be out there getting killed like so many other Bear qbs. The reason? The Bears are going to either draft a qb with the #3 pick, or deal that pick down for more picks and draft a qb later in the 1st or maybe the 2nd round. Plain and simple. Let the new guy learn for a while, then he can go out there and get killed or toss Shaw in the mix and let him get killed too.

So don’t hyperventilate too badly over the Glennon deal. It isn’t that bad if I am reading the tea leaves correctly.

Only A Clown Would Take a Trade for Cutler

I am seeing hilarious reports of the Bears trying to trade Cutler, like this.  It is the worst-kept secret in pro sports that Da Bears want to dump Cutty since they only have a small charge against the salary cap and can walk away from the 2017 and 2018 years on the contract.  If they could get anything for him, like a late round draft pick, that’s better than nothing.

The problem is, any team who would pick up Cutler would also need to pick up his contract and pay him big money.  However, if the Bears cut him, then that team would also have the opportunity to negotiate with Cutty as a free agent and (presumably) pay far less.

So it seems like only an idiot would give up a draft pick to the Bears for the opportunity to take on Cutty and his contract.  But good luck to Pace for trying.

Things, For The Most Part, Stay Intact

I have watched a few bits and pieces of the end of season pressers today and have read some things (I plan on watching the full pressers later). Nobody is making excuses for that shitshow of a season, but everyone also seems positive, which surprised me a bit. Well, good for them, I guess.

Also surprising to me was the fact that it doesn’t appear, at least as of this writing, that anyone major as far as coaches and front office will be leaving Halas Hall anytime soon (subject to change without notice). This tells me that George has confidence in the plan (whatever it is) and the people.

I wish I had more to add, but I really don’t. For now, the masthead stays intact. We will see what Pace/Fox have up their sleeves when free agency starts. I may add another post or two after I carve out some time to watch the full pressers.

Let’s Talk About the Chicago Bears

Here we are, 1-6 – soon to be embarrassed on national TV (yet again) and we will be sitting at 1-7 to start the year. So let’s talk about the Chicago Bears.

There is so much to unpack here and so much history. I will begin with the boss, George McCaskey.

There are a lot of jokes that go around making fun of the McCaskey family and how they run things. But the fact of the matter is that they have not been stingy with the cash at all. Over and over they have spent untold millions of dollars on this team, trying to make it better. I question keeping Ted Phillips around, however. In what possible world can Ted be considered “successful”? But what is successful to the McCaskeys? Making money? They certainly do that. If it is simply a question of making money, well, more power to them. Nobody has to go to the games (keep an eye on the stands as the weather gets cold and things get more and more bleak). But my gut tells me that they really do want to win. So why is Ted around?

When Ted and George hired Ryan Pace, I felt really good about it. Fresh face, renewed energy, a new way to look at things. An interesting departure from stodgy Phil Emery. But what a mess. It doesn’t appear that Pace has any clear direction. Granted, our whole team seems to get injured every week (and who’s fault is that, anyways?) but we have seen hundreds of guys in Bear uniforms in just a year and a half since the Pace/Fox era started. Our drafts these first two years haven’t been stellar (jury still out on some players, I will give Pace that). But what is the plan? Is there one? The Bears have to be looking long term at this point and form some sort of plan and stick to it. Too many moving pieces.

John Fox. He seems completely clueless. Maybe it is just me. This was Pace’s big hire and he doesn’t really seem to be “with it” in pressers, or on the sidelines or…anything. I am pretty unimpressed so far.

Cutler. He’s gone after this year so everyone can stop blaming everything on him (see how well Hoyer and Barkley did in Cutler’s absence just like Pickles last year). So what are we going to do for a qb? Early draft pick? Could work, might not. Brady was a 6th rounder. The first rounder in Philly, against all of my predictions, seems to be doing well. The number one pick from last year’s draft hasn’t played a down yet. You just never know.

Our offensive line is adequate, but that doesn’t get you into the playoffs and adequate gets your qb killed. Over and over. Even Seattle is having a tough time keeping Wilson upright and Green Bay is also finding out what living with an adequate line is like. Rodgers is definitely not himself this year.

The receivers outside of Jeffrey are unremarkable and in need of an upgrade. Kevin White is a complete and total bust.

Our defense actually seems to be coming along. I know it takes time to learn a new system, but many players have played the 3-4 on other teams so it isn’t like it is as big of a deal as a new offensive coordinator. Our front seven (especially once we get McPhee back) is more stout than I have seen in a while, but our corners and safeties bite. Many injuries on that front as well.

Speaking of injuries, what the heck? Why are we so cursed? Our starting center blew his knee up on FAMILY NIGHT. That is insane. I don’t know if this is bad luck, or poor training, but it just seems like we are always the walking wounded. I have no real explanation for this as I assume that most of the trainers (maybe I am assuming too much) have some sort of NFL experience and know how to train guys up for the long season.

So where does all of this armchair quarterbacking leave us? I really don’t know. Will upper management give Pace and Fox another year? I think that is the real question. I don’t know how much pressure there is on these guys but the owners have to feel tired of seeing their franchise being a laughingstock for so long. If the pressure is too great, there will be sacrificial lambs first (coordinators) then probably Fox, then Pace will go. It is in all of their best interests to show at least a little flash of brilliance (ha) at the end of this year to give Ted and George some sort of confidence in what we have here.

In the end, I am sort of clueless. I know that all of these folks are working as hard as they can, but nothing seems to be clicking. Again.